Australia vs USA – Part 2 (Findings of a B- student)
By mattsmallbone. Filed in Australia |I have found myself in a bloodbath of discourse with several Australian since my first post on this matter. One of the most astute Methodists I know replied with the simple opening line of: ‘You are no longer my friend’.
OUCH.
They were all offended that the USA won the ‘food’ criteria. They all claimed that USA food is doused in preservatives, fat and high fructose corn syrup. It is. However… we are debating survival rather than health on the bottom layer of Maslow’s pyramid. While preservatives may kill you in the long run, I believe that it is possible to self-actualize on the Subway Value meal diet.
Maslow would be pleased.
Moving right along.
The second bottom level of the pyramid pertains to SAFETY.
With their physical needs relatively satisfied, the individual’s safety needs take precedence and dominate behavior. These needs have to do with people’s yearning for a predictable, orderly world in which injustice and inconsistency are under control, the familiar frequent and the unfamiliar rare. In the world of work, these safety needs manifest themselves in such things as a preference for job security, grievance procedures for protecting the individual from unilateral authority, savings accounts, insurance policies, and the like.Source- WIKI
Today we’ll look at:
Security of
- The Body
- Employment
- Resources
- Morality
- The family
- Health
- Property
Dude was nothing if not thorough.
Safety of the body: As my seething Methodist friend pointed out: “Don’t forget to mention in ‘safety’ that Aussieland has the 3rd lowest incidence of gun crime in the world, as opposed to those in TN who fire warning shots to the chest… hahaha”. He has a point.
Australia 1- USA 0
Safety of employment: You can pretty much get fired at any time for any reason in TN. (Your boss fakes a meeting with you at Panera Bread while a workmate packs up your stuff in a cardboard box and leaves it beside your car). In Australia you need to receive a number of formal warnings and your employer needs a mountain of paper work to fire you.
Australia 2 – USA 0
Safety of resources: We all know that your possessions are a lot safer when you are holding a gun. (Unless, of course, your armed assailant has a larger gun).
Australia 2- USA 1
Safety of morality: Hmm – Days of our Lives vs Home and Away… This is a tie. We are morally yoked as nations.
Safety of the family: If daddy loses a job, the Australian welfare system is over the top generous (and tax like crazy to achieve this). Both countries, at least in theory, value the family unit as super-important.
Australia 3- USA 1
Safety of health: Australia has both state and private hospitals/ health-care (and tax like crazy to achieve this). Most people use both to a certain extent. Most Australians believe that the health care system is terrible.
In Australia, my private health insurance costs less than half of what it does in the USA and it covers dental, hospital, pregnancy, physiotherapy etc. If anyone in my family has to go to hospital, I pay a $250 co-pay once per year and we are all good. All I do is swipe a card and the computers talk to each other and I pay a small ‘gap’ payment if required. However, if you don’t have private health you can be sitting in a waiting room for a long time.
In the USA, they take down my (expensive) insurance information, and I receive about 5 different confusing letters from different health care providers for every visit. And it costs a ton. However, you can always negotiate on the price of your care, and all hospitals will cut you a deal and a payment plan if you are poor and without insurance.
Both countries are struggling with health care. Winning this category is kind of like being the best break-dancer in a Southern Baptist church. However, If I was going to break my arm, I would hope to be in Australia.
Australia 4 – USA 1
Safety of Property – If you are in a mortgage and unemployed, I would rather be in Australia at this moment in history. I know that this is not necessarily what Maslow intended here, but it feels right in 2010.
Australia 5 – USA 1
And there you have it. A big win to the Aussies today. We are 1-1 in this best of 5 series.
I await your well-informed responses with fear and trepidation.






Friday, January 29th 2010 at 6:37 pm |
“and all hospitals will cut you a deal and a payment plan if you are poor and without insurance” – I can see it now. For 50% discount on your theatre costs, we can use used surgical instruments. For 25% discount on your anesthetist costs, we can use the B grade stuff and a block of wood if it fails to put you out.
I can see who will be the end winner here, as it’s clear the top level will be the USA (only due to your current career), but given Australia has won this round by miles (or should that be kilometres) then that should be it as you can no longer climb the pyramid any further in the USA
Having just read both posts on the subject, I’ll put in my 2.2 cents (GST Included) feedback on part 1. Food: I will admit when I go to the USA I do hit the ‘junk food’ places, oh I love that you can get a Wendys burger and have grease remaining in the bottom of the wrapper. However that does relate to health and long term use of such foods in the USA will require medical attention sooner rather than later. You also failed to mention no ‘Iced Coffee’, well the type made with milk, and Lemon Lime and Bitters – 2 very important parts of my diet and something I miss when in the USA.
Waiting to read part 3, particularity ‘Friendship’ after all everyone is a ‘Mate’ in Australia
Friday, January 29th 2010 at 6:43 pm |
Matty, you’ve become quite the philosopher. All good stuff and of course Australia will come out on top on every level, it’s the greatest country on earth. Noting that I’m a Conservative Christian Politician in Australia who was a former Army Officer, you still can’t possibly tell me that you’re safer in the USA because you hold a big gun. If a bigger gun was all that was needed, the US would be the safest place, but alas 32,000 gun deaths each year alone (though more than half are suicide though) tells a different story. Having said that, I’d live in an M1A1 Abrams Main battle tank if I lived in the Bronx and I still think someone would have a bigger gun than me.
Importantly, I’m glad the family are well and you’re loving the Lord and loving life. Jetsetting with the Governor, nice!
Saturday, January 30th 2010 at 9:25 am |
Stu! From what I hear things are going great for you guys. Congrats on your success.
Now… can we please stop naming our children the same!?
Saturday, January 30th 2010 at 9:26 am |
Jeff,
“I can see who will be the end winner here, as it’s clear the top level will be the USA (only due to your current career), but given Australia has won this round by miles (or should that be kilometres) then that should be it as you can no longer climb the pyramid any further in the USA
”
I was hoping no-one would figure this out.
Kudos,
smalls
Sunday, April 18th 2010 at 5:29 pm |
I find myself coming to your blog more and more often to the point where my visits are almost daily now!